Cedric Bertelli: How To Instantly & Permanently Heal Emotional Trauma Using “TIPI”
Today we are joined by Cedric Bertelli, an expert in a little-known but interesting practice called Tipi. Tipi is an emotional regulation technique that helps people overcome fear and emotional trauma. It deals with sensory memory, or unconscious body memory.
To be quite honest, I didn’t know anything about Tipi at all before this interview, and for that reason, I was excited to invite Cedric onto the show to explain it to us.
In this episode, we talk about an interesting and shockingly simple method for overcoming emotional trauma. We learn about “Tipi” and how it works, why and how the method was developed. We discuss the body and the brain, and it’s natural ability to heal itself from literally anything. Cedric doesn’t hold anything back, and shares with you exactly how the method works, so that you can experiment with it at home. Though the method does go against so much of what we think we know about psychological trauma and healing, I encourage you guys to keep an open mind. As I point out in the interview, I felt a little bit like I did when talking to Wim Hof, who has shocked the scientific and medical community with his ability to control the autonomous nervous system with a simple breathing technique – so I encourage you guys to keep an open mind!
In this episode, we discuss:
- Who's Cedric Bertelli and how did his life take a different direction towards learning it?
- What 4 main emotions did Cedric Bertelli work on to remove them from his life?
- What is TIPI, what is it used for, and how the heck does it work?
- What does a “loss of consciousness” or a “short death” mean?
- Is TIPI very intense? What does a typical session look like?
- What is the difference between TIPI and meditation?
- What kind of emotional trauma and issues can you overcome using TIPI?
- Do you actually need to feel negative emotions in order to feel positive ones?
- Does Cedric Bertelli feel emotions differently now? Does he ever feel pain?
- What does the scientific community and research say about TIPI?
- What other routines, skills, habits, or tricks does Cedric Bertelli use in his life?
- What books would he recommend?
- What homework can you do at home this week?
- What's the #1 takeaway of this episode?
Resources Mentioned in This Episode:
- TIPI official website
- Cedric's website
- The Power of Now by Eckhart Tolle
- Our previous episode with Wim Hof
- The Mankind Project
- The Four Agreements
- When the Body Says No
- The Way of the Superior Man
- Power vs. Force
Favorite Quotes from Cedric Bertelli:
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Greeting, SuperFriends, and welcome to today's show. You guys, today we are joined by Cedric Bertelli. He's an expert in a little-known, but very interesting practice called Tipi.
Now, if you haven't heard of Tipi, well, I hadn't either, but it's an emotional regulation technique that actually helps people overcome fear and trauma extremely quickly. So it deals with something called sensory memory or unconscious body memory. Now, as I said, I had no idea what Tipi was before the interview, but I thought it was a really interesting and intriguing concept.
So I was really excited to invite Cedric onto the show to explain it to us. So throughout the episode, we talk about this interesting and shockingly simple method for overcoming emotional trauma. Basically instantly and we learn about Tipi and how it works, why and how the method was developed, the research behind it, and then we discuss the body in the brain and their natural ability to heal themselves from literally anything.
There's a lot of interesting metaphors there into the way that our bodies works. Now, Cedric doesn't hold anything back. He shares with you exactly how the method works and how you can use it and experiment with it at home.
Now I will say that this method really goes against so much of what we think we know about psychological trauma and psychiatry, psychology, healing, but I encourage you guys to keep an open mind because as I point out in the interview, I really felt a little bit like I did when I was talking to Wim Hoff who has really shocked the scientific community and the medical community at that, with his ability to teach people, to control the autonomic nervous system.
With a simple breathing technique. So again, I encourage you guys to keep an open mind. I think though, this is such a simple method. There may just be something to it. And I think you guys will find it very interesting and uplifting to hear Cedric talk about it. So without any further ado, let me present to you guys, Mr. Cedric Bertelli.
Mr. Cedric Bertelli, welcome to the show, my friend. We're so excited to have you today.
Cedric Bertelli: Well, hello. I'm very, very excited to be with you today.
Jonathan Levi: Awesome. I understand you have been a listener of the show for quite some time, actually.
Cedric Bertelli: Yes, I did. And thank you for what you're doing. It's always a useful, inspiring, and yeah, just thank you man.
Jonathan Levi: Thank you. I appreciate that. So, Cedric, I'm really excited to learn a little bit about Tipi today. Tipi, is that how I pronounce it?
Cedric Bertelli: Yes, it is. Yes, Tipi. It's a weird name, but, uh, that's how you pronounce it.
Jonathan Levi: Awesome. So I want to get into that, but first tell the audience a little bit about yourself and how you became interested in this little-known thing called Tipi Tipi hippie, the TIPI.
Cedric Bertelli: Well you know what? For me, the first career was in the hospitality business. I was working for the Ritz-Carlton here in the United States. I first started as a chef and then I went and did my way up until, um, restaurant directors. And, uh, all my life, I was dealing with anxiety, anger issues, and such things.
And as I became a leader and at the time I used to have 250 employees underneath me. I was trained to, uh, you know, become a better leader, become a more confident, you know, stronger person. I was doing a lot of workshops and psychotherapy and all this good stuff, but nothing that I was doing was really, um, I don't want to say it wasn't working, but it wasn't pragmatic enough for me, everything was asking work and constant efforts and I knew, I knew in the bottom of myself in the bottom of my heart, that something simpler must be possible in order to feel better. In order to feel more stronger, in order to feel more like myself.
At the time, uh, others used to call me Napoleon. At first, because I'm short and then, because I was throwing some, uh, breathing, strong, uh, tantrum at a reputation to like explode in anger. Well, anyway, long story short, I did a Google research at the time. It was 2009 and, uh, in French and I found this program called Tipi and they were claiming at the time that, we were still claiming it. But at the time they were having a lot of attention from the media is over there in Europe, because they were claiming that in 30 minutes, anyone can resolve any kind of emotional difficulties permanently.
Jonathan Levi: Wow. Sounds like a tall order.
Cedric Bertelli: Yep, absolutely and I was quite skeptical, but Hey, I tried man. I'm in California.
So where is everything here? You know, so I tried about everything then seeing naked around the fire and beating pillow and you name it. So I said, okay, listen, why not? So I pick up the phone and I lead the session from here from the state. We have a specialist in France and the emotion I worked on never came back.
It was specific anger and this anger never came back. So. I became interested and I contacted them again and I asked them to teach me how to do the work on myself by myself. So basically how to regulate my own emotional difficulties, because we do that, and they did. I worked on four main emotions that I didn't want in my life anymore.
So it's just jealousy, anxiety, a slight depression I was feeling and I gave myself about six months after regulating all these emotions in order to see if they were coming back or not. And six months after doing the session on myself, the emotion did not come back. So then I became really interested and pick up my phone and I call the program back in France and I said, Hey, I don't know anything about emotional regulation, sensory memory, because that's what we're working with, but I'm very much willing to learn.
And if you take me in the program, you know, I'd love to take the square care in the U S. And they say, Hey, why don't you come over? So I quit my job at the rates and I flew back to France and I started learning from the guy who created it. His name is Luc Nicon. I studied with him for two years and in 2011, I came back in the States with the project, but that's what I'm doing now to bring this work, educate and train people, to do it.
Jonathan Levi: Wow. So tell us now about Tipi. I mean, what is it? It sounds really interesting cause I, when researching it thought it was kind of an in-person physical meditative thing, but you said your first session was conducted over the phone. So tell us how Tipi works and what it is?
Cedric Bertelli: TIPI Yeah, uh Tipi was a, it's a research program basically from France.
It was created by a gentleman named Luc Nicon. Luc is a researcher in Behavioral Sciences. And what do you call it in France pedagogy, which is the art of teaching? And he's one of the two experts to do this, to create program, to teach through the sensory memory. That means through the body.
Basically what Luc is recognized in Europe is for two main discoveries. The first one, it is for a landmark study that in order for any one of us to have disruptive emotional buttons, such as stress, anxiety, depression, PTSD, one must have lived at some point, we must have live at some point unwilling short loss of consciousness.
That means they was able to demonstrate that in order for us to have a pattern, a disruptive emotional pattern, as we say at some point. We had, uh, what we can call a short death, a moment that there were vital functions shut down. And this moment up in about 96% of the time in uterus. So during our pregnancy, when we are in the video for a mom and at birth, that's the first thing it's recognized for, to link event short loss of consciousness, events to emotional patterns later on in life.
But that's not Tipi is all about. Tipi's are about the second discovery, which is he was able to prove to demonstrate through study that anyone from a point of emotion, when we feel an emotion, anyone as a natural biological ability to regulate permanently emotional difficulties basically was able to, to show that when we feel an emotion, everything is triggered in our brain, in our body in order to resolve this emotion completely and permanently.
And how do we do that? We use the physical sensation present in the body during an emotion. Basically, it was able to show how the physical sensation present in a body during an emotion, create a direct path to the origin of the emotional difficulty and that you follow this path without trying to control it whatsoever. But you consciously follow this path for the sensations, basically, as they evolve during an emotion, allow the neural system to integrate this emotion once and for all.
Jonathan Levi: Wow.
Cedric Bertelli: So you're absolutely right. We can do sessions on the phone in person. I do most of my sessions on Skype and on the phone, actually. All we got to do is to retrigger the rhythm brain, retriggered the emotional memory of a person and very specifically, and we're experts with that, you know, the, for the body to generate physical sensations.
And then we just use those sensations to revisit the original for difficulty, a session, a Tipi session day between 10 and 30 minutes, and even more. And we guarantee the result.
Jonathan Levi: Wow. Interesting. So essentially it's about creating this physical sensation, this physical condition that digs you back into the sensation that the emotion caused and thereby allows you to kind of heal over it.
Cedric Bertelli: Yeah, absolutely. Actually, the most natural way to use this ability because it's really a natural ability, man. It's free, like sleeping. The body is wired to regulate it's disruptive emotional butter. We were not meant as human beings to carry stress, anxiety, or to ever control it. This is nonsense. The body has an ability to heal executive.
When we cut ourselves after a few days, a wound is healing and then you don't see the wound anymore. The body has same exact, uh, healing power when it come down to emotions. Is not too weird if you think about it. We think it's normal when you burn ourself, then we heal. But it's weird for her, us as human beings.
When we say that, okay, your emotions can be healed as well. Now it's exactly the same thing. The body has this ability. It's natural, it's biological. Wow. And when you feel the emotion those sensations, because when you think about it, Jonathan, then how do you know that you're feeling such a such emotion?
How do you know you feel angry or upset or stressed? How do we know that as human beings?
We feel it in our bodies.
You absolutely right man. Emotion starts first through first set of physical sensations triggered by the rhythm brain. And then when our cognitive brain we're now entering, cannot manage this first set of sensations.
That's when an emotion comes. That's the only time when emotion comes, it is when our brain, our intellectual, and our intellect cannot manage the first set of sensations. The thirst sensation biologically starts with physical sensations. That's the only way the, of the brain where our emotions reaction, emotional reaction are stored.
That's the only way the rhythm can communicate where consciousness it is through physical sensations. The only way we can go back to the root is through the same path.
Jonathan Levi: Hmm, fascinating. And so this is kind of a one-time treatment. It's spoken word, obviously, if it can be conducted remotely, digging into a physical sensation, I imagine it's very intense.
If this is kind of a one-time solution, I imagine it can get very intense.
Cedric Bertelli: You know what, and that's the crazy thing. No, not at all because we've to retrigger the emotion at the beginning. And if you will, to, when we have the first set of physical sensation and let us know that we're angry or afraid, or, or we have a phobia or depressed when you trigger this first set of sensation, these are not intense at all.
They become intense as they escalate, as we try to control them. But this first set of sensation that let us know how we feel and then cannot be controlled by our intellect. This first set is not intense at all. So when somebody do a session on themselves or with a specialist, just sensations, I'm not going to lie to, you can be quite uncomfortable.
They can be scary at times, but most of the time, I would say 80% of the time, they don't feel bad at all. They don't feel extremely hurtful or uncomfortable at all.
Jonathan Levi: Okay. So, I mean, I, I understand we can't go into too, too much detail here. Cause this is probably something that people need to experience, but walk me through a typical session. I mean, where does the practitioner begin?
Cedric Bertelli: So they said you want to learn to do it on yourself by yourself, right? Let's say that you don't want to, to call a specialist that you want to basically how I did it. You know, I take care of your responsibility for your own being or your own emotional freedom.
It's extremely simple. It's so simple. That I think you right now is going to sound like a scam. Okay. But you're going to have to try it. You're going to have to try it. So let's say you feel an emotion. I don't know anxiety. You're about to give a big talk. I don't think you feel that, but let's say someone is about to give a big talk, and wow.
Before getting on stage, if you're super anxious, right? If you want to resolve this anxiety once and for all, it would have to, okay. Going to space where it's not going to be disturbed. As you feel the emotion as you feel the stress closes, eyes, pay attention to the physical sensation that it feels right then.
And only the physical sensations. That's a sensory memory. When someone, when these guys let's say it's being attention to the physical sensation, something already quite magical is going to happen. It is that the emotional reaction, it was fitting the anxiety as we call it, in this case, is going to stop right away.
Because as a human being, we cannot be in the sensorial and the physical sensations and in the emotional, it is impossible. We can be in one channel. Or in another one. So if someone is fitting an emotion, whatever emotion it is, if they close their eyes and they pay attention to the physical sensations, the emotional reaction was stopped right away.
It's amazing to see with kids, for example. Okay. So he close his eyes, you pay attention to the physical sensations and you observe the sensations as they evolve. You will see them, the physical sensation to not stay static. Once you start paying attention to them, they're going to start to evolve and to move in the body.
The intensity will change. The positioning in the body will change. They will evolve for about between two seconds and a minute and a half. Nevermore. If we do not interfere with them if we do not control them or concentrate too much on them, the sensation we've all between two seconds and a minute and a half.
Most of the time for us, it's about 30 to 45 seconds after the sensations evolve this guy we're feeling calm, completely calm, physically and psychologically. At this point, he can open his eyes. Wow. And the emotion that it was feeling, the anxiety, for example, will not come back. This kind of uncertainty will not come back ever again.
Jonathan Levi: Interesting. I mean, it sounds a lot like meditation. I have to admit.
Cedric Bertelli: Yeah, absolutely.
Jonathan Levi: Quite a bit like meditation.
Cedric Bertelli: The difference between Tipi and meditation is you do meditation at any time, right? To meditate you do Tipi at a specific time of your life. You only do Tipi only do one thing only does one thing is regulating emotion.
That's the only thing we do. But you enter at a point of emotion. Then, when you feel an emotion, basically it's our body screaming, telling us, okay. Now is the moment to regulate it. So, yes, you're right. It can sound like meditation. It also sounds like when it got really talk about the power of now and feel the emotion where all this author that I read and I can understand them, but I wasn't able for the longest time to do it, to stay present.
I think what Tipi is doing is simply taking all this knowledge, all this understanding of staying present to is most pragmatic to the most pragmatic meaning, which is state present. We've the body state present. We've the sensations has that happened in you and not with the emotion. Right. And just stay present with the sensations and let them do whatever they want without trying to breathing into it.
Without trying to add a glass of water or take some deep breaths. No, you got to stay present with the sensations and observe them. It's a conscious process. It's an active process and observe them as they evolve in your body.
Jonathan Levi: Interesting. So what kind of emotions can you work through with this?
Cedric Bertelli: Any kind of emotional difficulties, anxiety, any kind of phobia, PTSD, depression, anger.
Right now I'm working with a lot of, um, uh, I don't know if I should say, but if it's doesn't matter, I'm working right now with, for example, a lot of mom we're feeling anger towards the kids, you know, in when you're a young mom, you know, you're often struggling because you feel anger toward your kid, a baby or young child, and you don't want to feel this way, but wow.
Sometimes it's quite intense, right? When the baby's screaming and there's an anger there and it's possible to be regulated, really? It really depends. It's a lot of anger as well. Jealousy performs anxieties for men, anything that don't make you feel good, basically emotionally.
Jonathan Levi: Very interesting. I'm wondering because you know, I've been very stoic for a long time.
And I have, I often will tell people that I really only feel positive emotions, 99% of the time, and you'll meet people. And that's through meditation and just, you know, cognitive framing, old fashioned choosing how I want to feel, but you'll meet a lot of people who I believe that that's not healthy, that you're bottling emotions or, you know, the kind of classic cliche that in order to feel happiness, you need to feel sadness.
In fact, a study recently came out saying to that effect. What do you think about that? I mean, what do you say to people who would argue that you need to feel these emotions sometimes that they're natural, that they're healthy, that they're a part of being human.
Cedric Bertelli: When you say that you feel good and positive at the time, man, I totally get you because that's the way I feel as well.
But would you see that you bottled your bottle, you're a difficult emotion? You just, that just don't have any impact on you anymore. You don't feel them, right?
Jonathan Levi: Right. I would say it's kind of, for me a means of just letting the emotions pass through me. So rather than letting them in, in bottling, it's kind of just letting things go through me.
It's really just not minding what happens around me.
Cedric Bertelli: Yeah. You know, your right. And I will tell those people, no, you don't need to feel anxious. No, you don't need to feel sad. You know you don't need to feel angry. Those emotions, they don't serve you really. You know, those emotions. If they keep on coming back, your anxiety, you keep on coming back, stress, anger.
They make you sick. All recurrent emotional difficulties make us sick. Basically every time we have an anger, like, and we bottle it or we try to control it, or we try to control our stress or we try to ignore something. Basically, it's like the body bleeding from inside. It's a bit graphic, but it's like internal bleeding.
Every this emotion comes. It's tremendous stress on their body. Tremendous tension. We don't know because we don't pay attention to them. And those emotions will make us sick and you can control them. You can bottle them. That's like putting a bandaid on them. Then anytime you've been in a situation that triggered those emotions, the band-aid would be ripped off.
And the bleeding will start again. With Tipi, we allow the wound, the internal wound to just heal, like we said, at the beginning, you know. To just heal and stop the bleeding. And do you know what, like you, I'm sure now that I work with Tipi and you work with your own stuff, I feel more emotional than I ever did in the sense that when I feel an emotion, it is crisp. It is clean and I do not hold on to it.
The emotion that I feel or in the present, I don't remunerate about it. When I do a talk, I don't feel stressed anymore. I just feel excited to be there. But when I hear something sad, when I lose somebody that I love, the pain is clean, it is sharp and it is maybe more painful at it as have been in my life.
But it will be much shorter. And my, my body, my being we'll be able to integrate this new information and move on. So no, you don't need to feel those emotions. We're human, so of course, we are emotional beings and of course, we're gonna feel sad if there's something sad happening. Of course, we're going to react if we see the news and we'd all like what is happening in the world. It is not normal that we hold on to those difficult emotions. It is not normal to think about it over and over again and make ourselves sick again. No, it is not necessary. And the body is not made for that.
Jonathan Levi: I think those are definitely wise words.
So, Cedric, I wanted also to ask you just a little bit about, because as you said, like, you know, it sounds very far-fetched, so I'm wondering as with anything, you know, whether it's the paleo diet or yoga or any kind of new practice, one of the big issues is facing the scientific community. So I'm wondering, what does the research show about Tipi?
Has it been done? Are you guys in the process of doing it and, and where does it kind of stand in terms of getting acceptance from the scientific community?
Cedric Bertelli: Yeah. So good question in Europe. I mean, look, Nico is a researcher. So the research is what started everything. It went out in 2007 and the research was specifically the link between short loss of consciousness and emotional patterns.
And so now we're trying to get it accepted on, on the more, how can I say, official spectrum, so to speak, but Tipi in Europe, in Western Europe, in France, in Spain, in Germany is very well known and has a great reputation. So right now we're working with hospitals in France, psychiatric hospitals, and regular hospitals to make the study evermore official.
So the study exists, it is known. It is out there and the thing is it's in France. So my goal in being in the States is what I like to do is to do basically the study again for a University in order for us to, uh, to basically make it more easier to communicate on it, you know, to communicate on this work.
So to answer your question, the study is there. It is known and recognized in Western Europe. And that's why we have access to jails and schools and hospitals. And the awareness is starting. The awareness is starting.
Jonathan Levi: That's fantastic. It reminds me a little bit of when I talked to Wim Hoff and he's like, you know, everyone thought I was a cook 10 years ago, but now you see an article about Wim Hof method, practically every single day on the blog.
And again, if you know, I haven't tried Tipi but if you, if you talk to Wim Hoff 10 years ago, and he told you, all you got to do is breathe really, really fast, and then hold your breath and you'll be able to control your autonomic nervous system. People would think you were a total quack, right?
Cedric Bertelli: Things don't have to be complicated, man.
I mean the power of the human body is talking about being a superhuman, the power of the human body is absolutely outstanding. I will powerful integrity thing learning from things. And I think we make a difficult because we can wait to intelligent and intelligence is helping us in becoming entrepreneurs in communicating and in that's wonderful.
But when it comes to the basic needs of a human. The basic recovery needs. It's already in us. It comes from way far down the line. Luc will always say, you know, I didn't discover anything. I just was lucky to put a finger or something extremely simple than all the people found before me. But it wasn't the time maybe to communicate on it frozen, uh, even talk about it at the very beginning of his career about the felt sense.
You know, it is known. It is known for centuries, that those sensations in the body can lead to complete healing basically.
Jonathan Levi: I also want to ask you what other types of routines, I mean, skills, habits, things like that. Have you found working with patients and also in your own journey that have kind of helped you perform at a higher level?
Cedric Bertelli: You know, right now I'm a bad example because I'm mostly using Tipi. I mean, I sweat, I work the best for me before that I did the meditations spending a lot of time in nature. I worked with, um, a program called the new warrior project, the mankind project, which is a man, you know them. Yeah. Yeah. Great program.
Men work, great program. It rocked my world really at the time. It's, it's really was very important to me and reading. I was reading a lot of, uh, Donegal Reese, uh, with the Four Agreements was for me very important, actually, I don't need to know Gabo, but addiction and trauma was a great influence of me, David Elkins as well.
Jonathan Levi: That's great. You kind of led into my next question, which are, what are some of the most impactful books you've ever read? So you listed a few, the Four Agreements, The Power Of Now, phenomenal book, any others you wanted to throw in there?
Cedric Bertelli: Yeah. Wonder Body says no by Gabor Martin. Quite amazing Debbie Data.
The Way Of The Superior Man. Superior Man. Excellent. Yeah, these are the big ones for me and Daddy's Elkins as well. They didn't go the power versus Power Versus Force.
Jonathan Levi: Fantastic. On a similar vein. Are there any kind of products or resources, softwares, things like that, that you simply couldn't live without? Not a day in my life.
Cedric Bertelli: No, not really. I, uh, I kept all of this. My life is quite electronically Zen right now in my change, but no, so far I don't have a product that I'm really tied to. No, except walking a lot in nature. So like a cuckoo, but I spend a lot of time in nature and that's for me is, uh, is really important.
Jonathan Levi: Awesome. So transitioning just into the wrap-up phase of the interview, I wanted to give you an opportunity to assign the audience a piece of homework that they can maybe try this week.
I mean, you explained a little bit about how to conduct some Tipi on themselves. Is there anything more specific you'd like to add or maybe a different kind of homework assignment that you'd like to give people?
Cedric Bertelli: Yep, absolutely. So this is where they can do take a piece of paper. And in order to create awareness on our emotional pattern for them to note for men behavior that we take in, when we face this year, those four, many behaviors, most people know it.
It is aggressiveness, escape, inhibition, and taking control overpowering, either way. People around us or taking control of our ourselves, for example, by deep breathing or adding a drink or smoking pot, whatever. Thanks for those four behaviors and find specific situations when they actually feel that aggressiveness for specific situations where they actually try to escape with void, et cetera, et cetera, be specific in order for them to put on their radar.
They're emotional behaviors. And when is it that they react out of here? Because if we are aggressive, I aggressiveness if we try to escape with void, if we're inhibited, or if you try to take control arbitrarily over a situation, it is because there is a fear or there are fears behind it. So be specific and notice how we react about these four behaviors.
And when they catch themselves in life, I think an emotion where they don't feel well, such as anxiety, stress, anger, when they want to bail out of a situation because it's uncomfortable. Okay. When you feel this way, do not try to control it. Do not judge yourself, but simply move out of the situation, go to the bathroom.
For example, go to your room, go to a hallway. You sit down as you feel the emotion, you sit down, you close your eyes, you pay attention to your physical sensations. As you feel the emotion in you, you do that. You don't want to wait when the emotion is in you, that's the right woman to regulate it. So you feel the emotion you're going to a place where you feel safe.
You close your eyes, you pay attention to your physical sensations. You observe your sensations as they evolving in your body. You let them evolve with that, trying to control them whatsoever. Just with curiosity, you consciously surrender to the sensations in your body and you follow those sensations until your body feels calm.
When you feel calm, you open your eyes. That's it.
Jonathan Levi: I love it. That's a phenomenal homework assignment for everyone to experiment with at home. Where Cedric can people learn more about you and get in touch with you if they want to maybe book a session or even learn how to do this themselves a little bit further?
Cedric Bertelli: Yeah, it's quite easy. You can go to TIPI.PRO or that's TIPI.Pro or I also have a personal website, which is CedricBertelli.Com.
Jonathan Levi: Amazing. Cedric, I want to thank you so much. I just want to ask one last question, which is if people take away really one last message. One take-home from the episode, what would you hope for that to be?
Cedric Bertelli: When it comes down to emotions, you have the key to emotional freedom to your emotional freedom.
You don't need anyone. You can heal yourself. Even if you suffer from PTSD, any few have been anxious from the time you were two years old. When you feel the emotion in your life today, you don't have to go back to a trauma. You don't have to go back to a time of your childhood. When you feel the emotion today in your life, the window is open for you to allow yourself to heal from this emotion.
The power is in you. And once you do that one, twice, three, four times, you will see the difference in your life and how emotionally more free you become a more powerful you become. So do not hesitate that. Take the bull by the Orn and take responsibility or ownership of emotion. Do not run away from them.
You got to get inside them. You have got to become intimate with how it feels to be anxious or stressful. Just don't be afraid. Get in there, pay attention to the physical sensations and discover this part of yourself. That is just wanted to be healed basically. That's what I can say.
Jonathan Levi: Incredible. Cedric, thank you so much again for joining us today and sharing your wisdom.
And I do hope we keep in touch.
Cedric Bertelli: Jonathan. Thank you so much for giving me the opportunity. Yes, I will keep in touch, keep in touch as well. And uh, it really was a pleasure to be with you this morning here.
Jonathan Levi: Awesome. Well, you take care.
Cedric Bertelli: Thank you. You too, man. Thank you very much. Yeah, bye.
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