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Gary Taubes: How Bad Science Made The World Obese

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“A fundamental aspect of bad science is not questioning your core beliefs.”
— Gary Taubes

Greetings, SuperFriends!

This week, we are joined by a New York Times bestselling author who’s books you’ve almost certainly heard of: Why We Get Fat and Good Calories, Bad Calories. Way before the “Paleo” movement took off in a meaningful way, our guest today was one of the early opinion leaders to promote the idea that not all calories are the same – and that the idea of just “eating less” regardless of what you eat is fundamentally flawed.
Though we have covered diet and nutrition quite a bit on the show, it’s such a central aspect of optimal performance that it bears further investigation and occasional repetition.
Throughout the episode, we take a really deep dive into not just nutrition, but also how it came to be that everything the average person knows about nutrition is fundamentally wrong. We learn how this misinformation has persisted, why it has been so detrimental, and how things are starting to change all over the world. We talk about paleo nutrition, common dietary misconceptions, and a criticism of crappy science. All in all, I think you’re going to take away a lot from this episode – I certainly did.
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In this episode, we discuss:

  • How did Gary Taubes become interested in “bad science,” public health, and nutrition?
  • How did the entire world become so misinformed about nutrition and diet?
  • Who was Ancel Keyes, and how did he damage the health of billions of people?
  • What was the McGovern commission, and why did it lead to even more misinformation
  • How much of this was corruption, and how much was incompetence?
  • Are things actually changing? Have we as a society woken up?
  • What has been the role of the internet in spreading truthful health information?
  • A discussion of how doctors often lead people astray, even when they lost weight
  • What about the Atkins Diet? Why did doctors reject it?
  • How is the lipid hypothesis and nutritional misinformation like a religious cult?
  • Thoughts on the McDougall Diet, a high-starch, low-fat diet
  • How is the science around the paleo diet? Is it more substantive & reliable?
  • What does Gary Taubes eat? What does he NOT eat?
  • A discussion of ketogenic diets, and where the science points on it
  • Where does insulin resistance fit in, and how does it work?
  • What is The Nutrition Science Initiative, and why is it so important?
  • What “big” takeaway would Gary Taubes hope for you to remember for the rest of your life?

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Favorite Quotes from Gary Taubes:

“There's bad plumbing, and you could get a bad doctor, and you could get bad service at a restaurant… and there are bad scientists out there who don't have a clue what they're doing.”
“It's almost a joke… everything we've taught is probably wrong, and there's entirely healthier ways to eat.”
“It turns out that there's just no benefit from eating a low fat diet.”
“I think the basic ideas behind Paleo are very sound.”
“It's not actually corruption, it's capitalism.”
“You see the numerators, you don't see the denominators of failures.”
“They weren't interested in studying it. They were just interested in killing it.”

“If sugar didn't exist, diabetes would be as rare a disease today as lung cancer would be if cigarettes did not exist.”



  1. Luiz
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    Thanks, I learned a lot of interesting things in past episodes.

  2. Shivaditya Purohit
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    loved th heart and the depth of the conversation. The way that Dr. Metivier shared from his enormous experience and insights was just amazing. Thank you Jonathan for doing this podcast!! 🙂

  3. Rob
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    Great interview with Dr. Greg Wells! He mentioned a doctor from Colorado around the 42:30 point of the podcast, discussing turmeric and black pepper. I couldn’t make out the doctor’s name. Can you provide me with his full name and maybe his website or contact info. Interested in his products.



  4. Muhammed Sani Ibrahim
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    I am new here, and learning really fast.
    Thank you.

  5. Leonia
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    Maybe oarts of the things he has to share are right, maybe not. If I look at him which impact his nurturing and living style has on himself I see a very old looking man! He is year 1973!! That is not old and he looks definitly much older!! If I would not know his birthyear I would guess that he is in his mid-60ies!! A bit concering for someone who claims his lifestyle is suitable for a long life, isn’t it?

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